Please help me figure this out

I am trying to think of ways to heal the rift between Clinton supporters and Obama supporters, because the most important thing is to defeat John McCain in November.

I started this election (years ago) liking first General Wesley Clark, then Senator John Edwards once Clark endorsed Hillary Clinton.  When John Edwards dropped out (just in time for my state's primary) I voted for Senator Barack Obama.  I began contributing to his campaign after his truly inspirational response to the first time he was publicly connected to Reverend Wright.  At that point, for me, this switched from being the best choice available to being about someone I really thought was presidential.

Over the months since then I have been appalled by a few things Hillary Clinton herself has said, and quite a few things that senior members of her campaign staff have said.  I do not attribute things her volunteers and supporters who are not actually on her staff have said to her; though I've debated some of them as individuals.  As an Obama supporter I have even over-reacted and said some unkind things about Hillary Clinton when angry, and I am sorry for doing so.  I am not part of Obama's campaign though; and as an individual I feel free to speak my mind.

Something that profoundly disturbs me while watch the televised news (which may be a mistake, I admit), is the mainstream media's focus on the more entrenched supporters of Hillary.  I am disturbed by two questions:

1) Why is the media focusing on the more outrageous supporters from both Clinton and Obama supporters?  They ingore McCain's most outrageous supporters....  so it is clearly NOT as simple as the most prurient stories make better news.

2) Why do those most entrenched Hillary supporters accuse Obama or his campaign of denigrating or maligning Hillary personally?  I have been unable to find a single instance where Obama or his Campaign attacked Hillary the person since Samantha Power was cut from his campaign.  Yes, he has attacked specific statements Hillary has made, but he has also alway (to my knowledge) also expressed respect for her as a person.  Amy I wrong?  What am I missing?

Seriously, please help me find specific instances where Obama or his staff have been personal in their attacks on Clinton.  I am trying to understand where this is coming from.

Am I looking through rose colored glasses?  It is possible - I am very impressed with Obama's statesman like demeanor.  If anything, his calm can inspire anger as it can appear to be smug; but I see it as a quiet confidence...

Most of all I am enraged about the Republican administration, and a congress (both houses) that is not standing up to the administration and protecting the voters, the people of the United States and the world.  I am enraged that our constitutional protections are being eroded.  I am enraged that people are dying to protect the wealth of a few very greedy individuals and corporations.  I am enraged that our government has tried to rule us through fear and manipulation of the facts.  I am hopeful, and thrilled that we may finally have politicians with integrity who might begin to change all that.



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Re: Please help me figure this out (none / 0)

Why do those most entrenched Hillary supporters accuse Obama or his campaign of denigrating or maligning Hillary personally?  I have been unable to find a single instance where Obama or his Campaign attacked Hillary the person since Samantha Power was cut from his campaign.  Yes, he has attacked specific statements Hillary has made, but he has also alway (to my knowledge) also expressed respect for her as a person.  Amy I wrong?  What am I missing?

They wanted her to win and she didn't, so they have to find an explanation, however lacking in evidence and logic.


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by politicsmatters on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 08:42:45 AM EST

the way to unify, at least on this site, (none / 0)

is for the moderators to actually do their job and get rid of the trolls.  If DU and Dailykos can be moderated, this site can too.

Seriously, there are freepers just roaming around unchecked.  Lots of HRC supporters are getting duped into thinking these people are their fellow supporters when they're really here just to cause strife between us.

I actually think this site is not moderated because whoever is in charge knows that if they got rid of the trolls it might take away most of the traffic this site gets now.

Is Mydd going to be another Hillaryis44 pretty soon?


McCain does Not support the troops
by hope monger on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 08:46:02 AM EST

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oh please, stop with this.

i can see jerome greedily rubbing his fingers together as he swims in his giant money bank a'la scrooge mcduck.

riiiiight . . .


by pholkhero on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 09:00:26 AM EST
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Re: the way to unify, at least on this site, (2.00 / 1)

lol, seriously, I need someone who has been on this site for awhile to tell me wether or not the site will become more moderated now that the primaries are over, do you know?

I just assumed it would become more moderated and freepers wouldn't be allowed to post stuff like "Obama Hussein the terrorist muslim will eat your baby"

I just need to know because I'd like to spend time on here like I do at other websites, but if it's not moderated for democrats I don't want to.  I have no desire to read Repug lies all the time.  When I want to know what the repugs are making up lately I just turn on Faux news for 5 minutes.  This site is going to be no fun if the moderators don't take this site back from the freepers.


McCain does Not support the troops
by hope monger on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 09:18:43 AM EST
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Why don't you go back to DKos?
You'll find what you need, uniformity of though and all those kinds of things.
by TaiChiMaster on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 10:05:38 AM EST
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Re: Please help me figure this out (none / 0)

There's various levels of delusion going on. I read a comment claiming that Obama didn't really have all those superds needed to clinch, that the media just took his word based on the numbers (not names) the campaign released, and that there was no way to find out who those people supposedly were.

Now, that's some serious denial.


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by politicsmatters on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 09:25:29 AM EST


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